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From: barry@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Mikki Barry)
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Subject: Re: From Fig to finding a Candy Man
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Date: Fri, 26-Sep-86 11:48:23 EDT
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In article <262@prometheus.UUCP> pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) writes:

>I've got it, you want God to prove that He can be a Candy Man,
>and make you a "Snicker bar tree".  Least that's one of my favorites!

Paul, why can't you address the issue instead of trying to be funny?
The point is that your god incarnate, Jesus, was hungry.  Now in the
past, when people were hungry, or thirsty, this Jesus was supposed to
have created fish, bread, wine, etc.  But this time, instead of
creating what he wished to have, he killed an innocent tree that
HE made imperfect (i.e. not bearing figs).  Seems a bit strange that
a god would rather kill something for being the way he made it, rather
than simply create what he wanted in the first place.

>The hell is simply a state of being in which the soul is incapable of
>seeing the "good (reality) around it", and therefore it is tormented
>by loneliness and its own distorted impressions of reality.  

I would really like to see your proof of this.  Others are stating that
hell is eternal torment of fire and brimstone variety.  Why do you believe
differently?  How do you know?  

Seems this whole argument boils down to the fact that your god seems to be
quite irrational.  He kills his own creations for being the way he made
them, and damns others to different states of torment (depending on the
literature you read at the time) also for being as he created them.
And the rest of your posting, concerning why people go to this hell has
been contradicted by other christians who say the only way to avoid this is
to believe in the guy who curses fig trees.  

Why are your beliefs off the mainstream?  Do you have different sources for
them than the other christians who post here?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Mikki Barry
HASA
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"Communication is only possible between equals"