Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!husc6!ut-sally!seismo!uwvax!planting From: planting@rsch.WISC.EDU (W. Harry Plantinga) Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc,net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Tim Maroney's questions!! (Why do people belive in God) Message-ID: <2759@rsch.WISC.EDU> Date: Thu, 25-Sep-86 12:35:17 EDT Article-I.D.: rsch.2759 Posted: Thu Sep 25 12:35:17 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 29-Sep-86 02:38:27 EDT References: <2573@watdcsu.UUCP> Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 36 Xref: linus talk.religion.misc:281 net.religion.christian:4755 > Xref: uwvax talk.religion.misc:240 net.religion.christian:4967 > > I contend that many Christians believe God from experience. That is > the Bible tells of a testable method to find Him (no blind faith just be > determined). Such experience is what I contend is the reason for yet more > 'faith'. Just as we understand that the sun will rise (because we know why). > That is the sort of faith you should understand Christians in general to > have. > > # Mike Gore > # Institute for Computer Research. Mike makes a good point here. Let me expand it a bit. When a person sees another person, he (or she) assumes or "knows" that there is another person near him. In fact, however, he cannot *prove* the existance of the other person--he cannot prove that the appearance is not an illusion. The point is that he has had an experience from which he concludes that there is another person nearby. In the same way, most (many?) Christians believe in God because they experience Him. For many Christians, the experience is just as compelling as the appearance of another person nearby. It's not a mental defect that causes the person to believe in God, it's a correct and natural response to experience. Many Christians *don't have a choice* about believing in God any more than a person has a choice about believing there's another person in the room when he sees him. I sometimes even wonder if *everyone* experiences God, and either accepts him or rejects him. It would certainly explain the venom I see in this newsgroup . . . Harry Plantinga planting@colby.wisc.edu {allegra,seismo,ihnp4}!uwvax!planting