Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!qantel!ihnp4!cbatt!cwruecmp!cwrudg!rush From: rush@cwrudg.UUCP (rush) Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc,net.religion.christian Subject: Re: A Fig for 'what's his name'. Message-ID: <149@cwrudg.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Sep-86 17:00:19 EDT Article-I.D.: cwrudg.149 Posted: Fri Sep 26 17:00:19 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Sep-86 00:32:42 EDT References: <5369@decwrl.DEC.COM> <1150@cybvax0.UUCP> <251@prometheus.UUCP> <1156@cybvax0.UUCP> Reply-To: rush@.UUCP () Organization: CWRU Dept. of Computer Engineering, Cleve, OH Lines: 42 Keywords: A different angle ('>' :-) Xref: linus talk.religion.misc:291 net.religion.christian:4766 In article <1156@cybvax0.UUCP> mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) writes: >In article <251@prometheus.UUCP> pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) writes: >> In article <1150@cybvax0.UUCP> mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) writes: >> >And even if the tree is barren one year, it might bear the next. Killing >> >the tree is simply wanton destruction. >> [some text in defense of God's actions esp. that there was something wrong with the tree] > >First, you're just guessing, since there's nothing in the Bible suggesting >that in the least. > >Second, any god who can supposedly perform resurrections could surely have >performed a different miracle and caused the tree to spontaneously bear >fruit (or be cured, if your silly speculation is assumed.) > >Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh > I always thought that Jesus was warning His disciples in much the same way He warned them through Matt 23+, Luke 14 (or 17), and other apocalyptic passages in scripture. He did pick a rather vivid method of illustration though. That fig tree makes another appearance in scripture, at least in figure. The owner of it speaks that it has borne no fruit in three years. Jesus came that we might 'bear much fruit'. This fruit is essentially a holy life, full of faith and good works. This discussion is off track... 'The message of the cross is foolishness to them that are perishing, but to we who are being saved it is the power of God.' or some such. If you want to hurl insults at God, go ahead, you will receive your reward. If you are interested in finding out about God's character, humble yourself and ask. He is good or He isn't God. That is a personal definition. I find that YHWH is just such a God. (p.s. I felt that way long before I became a christian, too, and I think that is the primary point of contention in this discussion. Unfortunately I don't have time now for further exploration of this topic...) Richard Rush - Just another Jesus freak in computer science decvax!cwruecmp!cwrudg!rush All things that look like scripture may not be, since I am working from memory only.