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From: magore@watdcsu.UUCP (M.A.Gore - ICR)
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Subject: Re: Reply to Marty Smith
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Date: Sun, 28-Sep-86 23:18:35 EDT
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	It would seem that *your* idea of the word DAMN - Damnation
is not a curse. Well this is an English problem as well.

	The place or the state of damnation is that of the final loss
of soul or destruction. So when you say 'God Damn' you instruct 
God to Damn whatever your talking about. To use the word by
definition is to Swear -and you are telling God to Damn something which
isn't *our* right. Even though *you* don't mean anything bad -if I get
the drift. You knew or now know *what* you are saying. To 'DAMN' 
something is to Judge it because the *word* damnation from it's
Greek word (See Unger's Bible dictionary or a Bible with a concordance)
*is* the place of Judgement and destruction. But beyond that *no place*
in the Bible is using the word Damn or a Curse *like* it given in
the Light you would like to use it (harmless in your eye's). If
something happens bad we should have sorrow! Look at Job what was
his example? He had enough to be sad about but his Joy was in God.

	Show examples where a Curse was worship and the word
was 'DAMN' in the Bible. Or try to use Scripture to give light
to your ideas.  This might clear things up  -Remember that 'DAMN' is
the place of Judgement/destruction. Then follow this thought:

	Deuteronomy 1:17
		" Do not show partiality in judging; hear both small and
	great alike. Do not be afraid of any man, for 
		judgement belongs to God."
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Isiah 58:11 (NIV) "...and not doing as you please or speaking
	*idle* [my emph.] words, then you will find your joy in the Lord..."

	So what are 'idle' words? Try words said *without* thought - as if to
make idle 'damnation' *because you said you DID NOT mean it* - well
that is idle. You can say that you mean good by it *but* you thus
make the word 'idle' the further from it's intent you make it....

	Well perhaps I understand where you were coming from now. But
still the point stands. You might now understand why people quoted
the various verses to you...

	Keep looking. I trust God will make things clear as you search
with your heart....

# Mike Gore 
# Institute for Computer Research.
# These ideas/concepts do not imply views held by the University of Waterloo.