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From: magore@watdcsu.UUCP (M.A.Gore - ICR)
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Subject: Re: Reply to Marty Smith
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Date: Tue, 30-Sep-86 00:58:07 EDT
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In article <1609@tektools.UUCP> tcmaint@tektools.UUCP (Tad) writes:

[much deleted ... more after this]

To which I reply (being out of form to raise a point -but *not* to
endorse my method of doing so....) :

	For a moment I thought this came from the HASA -On a bad day
I try not to think of them as the (Heckling Antics Slander Abyss -HASA).
It was the style that deceived me. Statements that don't diplomatically
*try* to understand the 'other' side but use slander (perhaps unwitting)
to replace objectivity. They dump so much garbage at every turn they
can't even 'smell' the answers we give through the stink they make -let
alone make sense of them. Try to tell us that 2 + 2 = 5 for large values
of 2 just to prove how dumb *we* are (-:. But I digress... So ask me what
have I just done (re HASA)? Is it right? Does reason win? Is Christ
honored? *NO!* We learn over and over Christian or non-Christian that
free society *dies* when *such* tactics replace diplomacy, reason or truth...

	But *please* in case you believe what you write here try to
understand us ok? What use (purpose) are your statements?
So many...'so soooo many myths about what Christians believe where is one
to start' -I ask myself? How is one take your meaning?

You state:

= Actually, Paul was a self-centered, woman hating religious politician who
= jumped onto the Christian bandwagon because he could not advance as a
= Pharisee (even they hated tax collectors.)  Consequently, Paul gained
= religious power in the same way Hitler gained political power.  They were
= much alike.
= Just think, Christianity owes its' entire philosophy to this one man
= (well, at least the most of it.)  So, Christianity, itself, is a myth
= and definitely pagan.  Superstition, lies and cant its' only redeeming
= qualities.  God is forgotten and replaced by ritual heresy.  Jesus
= would shutter at the idolatry.
	^^^^^^^^
...Jesus would have tears in his eyes after reading this....

As a wise and weary 'sheep' I utter a parable an idea an example
a thought - To defend to instruct:

	'...In humiliation the WORD was deprived of justice.
	 Who can speak of Tad's sources? For his
	 ideas were taken out of thin air...'
		(ACTS 8:33 NIV -paraphrase mine)

	Jesus died because of lies and mocking...
		So Enough said...

= So Ken, you privileged, private school preppy--Keep on Charging!
= Tad Dowe

I thank God for Ken and other Christians on this net.

(PS. No harm intended Tad -don't misunderstand. I tried to use humour - 
what ever I could think of to get the point home on your level. Just 
wanted to make you think about what you said ok? Please keep searching
though...)

# Mike Gore 
# Institute for Computer Research.
# These ideas/concepts do not imply views held by the University of Waterloo.