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Subject: Re: Christian logic (or lack) was: Re: One more time
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Date: Sat, 4-Oct-86 18:40:04 EDT
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   It seems that Kiki doesn't like my using the reference _Trivial_Pursuits_ 
to prove that Buddha was more widely represented in art than Jesus. Well 
Kiki, I wish to point out that it is an actual reference. If you wanted 
to expend the time you could, from this reference, call the company that 
made the game and actually trace down their sources as I'm planning to do.
On the other hand Kiki, you gave no reference for your statement that Jesus 
is the most widely represented person, no reference at all (people who live 
in glass houses and all that).
    When I asked you where all the people who have never heard of Jesus after 
they die, you quoted from the bible:
> "For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous, but those who live 
> by the law that are declared righteous."
Ie: If a person has not heard of Jesus, then after they die, they will be 
judged according to "the Law", instead of whether they accepted Jesus. 
What law is this? The Old Testament mosaic laws? How many people in the 
world know not to mix meat and milk,  not to consume blood, to always eat 
Kosher and never eat pork, to remain outside the village for several days 
after you bury someone, not to have sex during menstruation, etc, etc, 
etc... . If thats "The Law" you're talking about, then it looks like almost 
all the people that haven't heard of Jesus are still in, or going to, Hell 
(According to _The_World_Almanac_ only 22% of the worlds population is 
Christian). By the way, doesn't it say somewhere in the new testament that 
no man can live up to these "Laws" except by the grace of Jesus? I'm not 
positive, but I do remember being told something like that by evangelists.
    Also, what if the person hears about Jesus from some hatemonger like 
Brother Jed. If the only times they heard about Jesus, the peacher called
them a pimp, a whore, that all their relatives were burning in hell and 
they soon would be as well if they didn't immediately bow down and grovel 
before this new foreign (to them ) god. Does God give give special 
dispensation for such people to reject Jesus, because they only heard 
preachings of hate about "the Prince Of Peace".
    I guess I'd like to know your answers to just 2 of the questions 
I've asked:
	1: What is your reference that Jesus is the most artistically
portrayed person in history (remember, if you're going to complain about
references, yours better be superior to mine). 
	2: What is this "The Law" that everyone ignorant of Jesus will be 
judged by after they die(I'll want a reference for this too).

				Curiously Yours,

				Dave Butler


    Its more important to know what is correct, rather than who is correct.
    Remember: Silly is a state of Mind, Stupid is a way of Life.