Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!csustan!smdev From: smdev@csustan.UUCP (Scott Hazen Mueller) Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc,soc.women,talk.abortion Subject: Re: Feminism and Abortion Message-ID: <217@csustan.UUCP> Date: Wed, 1-Oct-86 14:36:04 EDT Article-I.D.: csustan.217 Posted: Wed Oct 1 14:36:04 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Oct-86 07:36:42 EDT References: <2710@burdvax.UUCP> <5833@ut-sally.UUCP> <311@isieng.UUCP> Reply-To: smdev@csustan.UUCP (Scott Hazen Mueller) Organization: City of Turlock Lines: 35 Xref: linus talk.religion.misc:347 soc.women:179 talk.abortion:56 In article <> kiki@isieng.UUCP (Kiki Herbst) writes: >In article <> raghu@sally.utexas.edu.UUCP (Raghu Ramakrishnan) writes: >>>[...some xtian propaganda saying we should all be "Good Samaritans"...] >>> >>>Tom Albrecht >> >>Why? >> >>raghu > >[...more xtian propaganda saying the same thing...] > >Kiki This is called begging the question. You assume that for some reason there is something intrinsically good about treating other people as equals and then say, "Now wouldn't it be nice if people really did this." There are real and good _reasons_ for treating with others as equals; they also have nothing to do with one or another religion. There is the pragmatic reason that people will have nothing to do with you if you do not act as if they are worth something. There is the internal reason that quite often it simply *feels good* to be polite/nice/helpful to others. If you don't want to feel good, and don't care to interact with society, there is nothing at all _wrong_ with being an obnoxious idiot; just don't act like one and expect people to care to associate with you. I have no respect for people who argue that something is right (or wrong) because "the Bible says so." \scott -- Scott Hazen Mueller lll-crg.arpa!csustan!smdev City of Turlock work: (209) 668-5590 -or- 5628 901 South Walnut Avenue home: (209) 527-1203 Turlock, CA 95380