Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!ll-xn!nike!aurora!ames!barry From: barry@ames.UUCP (Kenn Barry) Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc,net.religion.christian Subject: Only two positions? (Was Re: A Fig for 'what's his name') Message-ID: <1685@ames.UUCP> Date: Wed, 1-Oct-86 13:07:15 EDT Article-I.D.: ames.1685 Posted: Wed Oct 1 13:07:15 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Oct-86 07:41:36 EDT References: <5369@decwrl.DEC.COM> <8590@duke.duke.UUCP> <913@ho95e.UUCP> Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 20 Xref: linus talk.religion.misc:351 net.religion.christian:4803 From: gkm@ho95e.UUCP (Gary McNees): >Should I attempt to convince you >or someone else who is not a Christian of the truth of Christianity, >I would use an entirely different approach. It is referred to as a >presuppositional argument. If is best presented by a Christian >named Cornelius Van Till. In essence, it shows that there are >really only two positions: the Christian one and the non-Christian >one. Next, each position is presupposed as being the truth, and >tested as to its ability to explain reality. Could you expand on this? Especially the part about there really only being two positions. I've noticed this as a hidden premise in some pro-Xian arguments, but I've never seen it properly defended. - From the Crow's Nest - Kenn Barry NASA-Ames Research Center Moffett Field, CA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ELECTRIC AVENUE: {ihnp4,vortex,dual,hao,hplabs}!ames!barry