Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!yale!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!decwrl!magic!thain From: thain@magic.UUCP Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: one more time...( same old party line!) Message-ID: <1312@magic.DEC.COM> Date: Mon, 6-Oct-86 13:16:29 EDT Article-I.D.: magic.1312 Posted: Mon Oct 6 13:16:29 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Oct-86 10:25:05 EDT References: <2fa71dcd.33cd@apollo.uucp> <2fa77b2f.46@apollo.uucp> <232@BMS-AT.UUCP> Organization: DEC Systems Research Center, Palo Alto Lines: 87 Stuart Gathman is under the mistaken impression that clouding the discussion with non-sequter reasoning takes the place of good old thinking. Perhaps he is right. After all he provides the perfect example of a person screaming so loudly about what they "know" is right that they can't even hear themselves think. In article <232@BMS-AT.UUCP>, stuart@BMS-AT.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) writes: > In article <1018@rti-sel.UUCP>, wfi@rti-sel.UUCP (William Ingogly) writes: > I think the same mastermind must be in charge of brainwashing all > American students. O.K., I confess. By the use of designer drugs and heathan sacrifical practices we have enslaved all the American students into believing that soon Oleg will lead them on a religious jihad so that they may turn forever away the Big Daddy/Junior/Spook concept and erect statues to their favorite talking animal out of whatever they're little minds concoct. This is the true purpose of HASA. We are winning! > Did it ever occur to anyone that something might > be true (or false) even if no one believes it to be true (or false)? > If your right arm gets amputated, does believing real sincerely that > it didn't happen change the facts? Christianity makes certain statements > about the universe (and beyond). These statements are either true or > false. If it is true that anyone outside of Christ will go to Hell, they > are going there whether they believe it or not. It is simple kindness > for Christians to try and warn their neighbors before it happens. O.K., you've warned me. I have been amply warned in my lifetime. I still feel that it's a crock of horsehocky, but I acknowlage that I've been warned. NOW Stuart, now that you've done your duty as your God commanded, you can leave me alone. There are other ways to come to terms with the universe, despite how you might feel about it. I feel as a public service to you however, that I should warn you about believing the purveyors of Organized Religion. They have always at the upper levels of adminstration mixed politics within they're religious doctrines so beware of they're "truths". Also, beware of those who would interpet your Biblical passages for you, as they have been known to use the word of God to justify unjust actions. Beware those who use the Bible to support moralizations wich God spake not about. Open your ears, look with your eyes, search your feelings. expand your religious horizons despite what others may tell you. There. Now I've warned you. > Wake up! HASA and SASA especially! You guys are supposed to be > finding out what's really true! I am sick and tired of relative truth. > Let's show why Christianity is false, or why it is true. But let's not > have this "whatever works for you" drivel. Numerous times arguments have been presented in this forum for why Christianity bites the big one. All the supporters have done is howled about how they're being picked on, screaming that one must be liberal with Biblical interpertations but stingy to accord the same liberalness to evidence posted by non-Christians. This "whatever works for you drivel" seems to be a damn sight better than, " well, *we're* right and your wrong because we have said so and we have God on our side!" attitude which has developed. Tell me Stuart, what is so "right' about Christianity? Why should I become one? > Remember, somebody might be right! Yes, a scary thought, don't you agree? Of course, the possiblity exists that perhaps we're both right, or even both wrong! Happy Trails, Glenn Proud member, HASA "S" Division Commander thain@src.DEC.COM ( JOIN NOW! All HASA members recieve the following!)* 1) 15% off all Whale oil Balms 2) Aura Colors altered while you wait! 3) Seven Sacred Monkees from the Secret Ancient Crypts handtowel sets 4) The Best of HASA - only $9.99! And.....if you order now.....you will recieve an autographed picture of Mel Torme singing, " The Devil Went Down to Georgia!" * Offer void. Refund satisfied if not gaurenteed.