Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 (USS@Tek, v1.1) based on 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site pogo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!tektronix!orca!pogo!daveb From: daveb@pogo.UUCP (Dave Butler) Newsgroups: net.singles,talk.religion.misc Subject: Puritan Ethics Message-ID: <2745@pogo.UUCP> Date: Thu, 18-Sep-86 17:08:16 EDT Article-I.D.: pogo.2745 Posted: Thu Sep 18 17:08:16 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Sep-86 04:21:44 EDT Reply-To: daveb@pogo.UUCP (Dave Butler) Distribution: na Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR. Lines: 60 The net has been filled lately about how christian church was the driving force behind the making of America and how the Puritan ethics made this country great. How they escaped from tyranny and persecution to come over here. With all this talk about how all the puritan came over to escape persecusion, its humorous to note that they immediately set up their own set of persecusions. The following quote is from Allen Sherman's _The_Rape_Of_TheA*P*E*_: By the time the Mayflower arrived, America had already been going down the uptight staircase for eight years - since 1612, when the Jamestown Code was written. The spelling was abominable, but the meaning was clear: No man shal commit the horrible, and detestable sins of Sodomie upon pain of death; & he or she that can be lawfully convict of Adultery shall be punished with death. No man shall ravish or force any woman, maid or Indian, or other, upon pain of death, and ... he or shee, that shall commit fornication and evident proofe made thereof, for their first fault shall be whipt.... The Puritans weren't just fooling around either. There is a famous story of a sailor, returned from a threeyear voyage. When his wife came to the door, he hugged her right there on the doorstep. Unfortunately it was Sunday, and they were observed. He was thrown in the stockade for three more years. Condemned prisonors, standing on the gallows with their necks already in the noose, were forced to listen to morality sermons. One such was delivered by a hellfire preacher named Jonathan Edwards, of Northampton, Massachusetts: The God that holds you over the pit of hell, much as one holds a spider or some loathsome insect over the fire, abhors you, and is dreadfully provoked. You are ten times so abominable in his eyes as the most hateful and venomous serpent ... if you cried to God to pity you, He will be so far from pitying you in your doleful case, or showing you the least regard or favor, that instead of that He will only tread you underfoot. After 20 minutes of that, it must have been a pleasure to be hanged. After reading that, aren't you glad the Puritans escaped to America so that they could spread their special version of "love" and "freedom"? If that was an example of what the Puritans contributed to America, I feel we could have done well enough without thankyou. Because of the subject matter I thought net.singles would get a kick out of it too, by if you going to make a strictly religeous commentary on this, post it to just talk.religion.misc and I promise to do the same. Enjoyed this Immensely, Dave Butler Remember: Silly is a state of Mind, Stupid is a way of Life.