Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!isieng!kiki From: kiki@isieng.UUCP Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: Re: one more time Message-ID: <302@isieng.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Sep-86 11:55:52 EDT Article-I.D.: isieng.302 Posted: Fri Sep 19 11:55:52 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Sep-86 04:51:28 EDT References: <2741@pogo.UUCP> Reply-To: kiki@isieng.UUCP (Kiki Herbst) Distribution: na Organization: Integrated Solutions, San Jose, CA Lines: 67 Summary: That's what brains are for In article <2741@pogo.UUCP> daveb@pogo.UUCP (Dave Butler) writes: >In article <222@octopus.UUCP> Pete Holzman writes: > >>There is only one unique >>thing about the Bible/Christianity that makes it any different than other >>religions: Jesus. No other religion has a central human figure ('prophet', >>whatever you want to call it) who claimed to *be* God. > >Sorry to burst your bubble Pete, but Vishnu came to earth several times. One >of his most important manefestations was Krishna (also called Lord of Lust), >who, on the day of his birth, went out to do battle with a major demon and >vanquished her... He was tall, beautiful, "black as a lotus", had 4 arms, >and could speak from the moment of his birth. The Bible may have been >"inspired" by God, but Krishna gave us the _Bagavad_Gita_ in person. If you >don't buy this and think its a bunch of cowflop, then stop and think for a >moment, and maybe you'll understand why hindus (and many other people) think >the same about christianity. Thank God that we have been given minds so that we can rationally evaluate what truth and fact is. Just because a large number of people believe something or have "tons of faith" doesn't make something true. If you're flying an airplane and you put a cactus in the pilot's see and believe with all your heart that the cactus will fly the plane, it ain't gonna fly the plane. If you don't put a pilot up there, the cactus won't make a difference no matter how strongly you may believe in it. If there's a God, it doesn't matter how many people believe it or have faith in something as God; if it's not God, it ain't gonna fly! Jesus was probably the most remembered character in human history. More books have been written, more songs sung, more paintings painted, more great drama written than any other figure in the past. Have you ever wondered why? Why doesn't he fade into the past like others? Several books in the Bible were written by men who were eye witnesses to Jesus' life. They wrote not about some mystic, bizarre creature; they wrote about a man who once lived on earth and lived and breathed just like we do. These men knew Jesus intimately; they slept and ate with Him and followed Him. When Jesus was on earth he expressed the thoughts of God in human words. John wrote in chapter 20, verses 30-31: Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ and the Son of God and that believeing you may have life in his name. Nothing mystic and bizarre about that. John talks about Jesus giving "light" which is knowledge, understanding, truth. The Bible teaches man to use his mind, to pursue knowledge. We can pursue all kinds of knowledge--art, science, health, literature, politics, etc.--but if we don't know the knowledge that is written in the Bible, we can never understand what is really happening. So what is it that you "buy", Dave? A creature with four arms? Vishnu? The greek gods? Buddha? We are constantly put in situations where we need to make rational choices. If we didn't make intelligent choices, think of where we'd be now. Or think of where we'd be if *everyone* made intelligent choices! > > Enjoyed this Immensely, > Dave Butler > Me Too! Kiki Herbst > > Remember: Silly is a state of Mind, Stupid is a way of Life. "If any man is willing to do His will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it is of God, or whether I speak from Myself"--Jesus Christ (John 7:17)