Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!tektronix!tekgen!tekigm!tekigm2!wrd From: wrd@tekigm2.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit Subject: Re: Omniview Message-ID: <1186@tekigm2.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Nov-86 13:22:51 EST Article-I.D.: tekigm2.1186 Posted: Fri Nov 7 13:22:51 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Nov-86 16:05:33 EST References: comp.sys.atari.8bit article #3 Reply-To: wrd@tekigm2.UUCP (Bill Dippert) Distribution: na Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR. Lines: 52 Keywords: 256k, composite monitor 1 - cannot answer as to how good omniview is, if it is as good as the new Atari XEP80, then it is excellent. However, most 80 column readouts are much better if you use a non-composite video output and monitor for same. Atari is not composite only output! You can get separated video which is much better. Both a Commodore 1702 and the C.Itoh CM1000 monitors will accept a separated video output signal in lieu of the normal NTSC composite video, and believe me the difference is amazing. 2 - it depends upon which 256k upgrade that you use. Both the Newell and the RAMBO XL upgrades require one resistor unsoldered, and from 4 to 6 wires soldered at various places. Generally the wires can be soldered to existing thru plated holes. Both of these upgrades want you to bend up 4 pins on one of the IC's (either PIA or ANTIC, I forget) and solder wires to them--DON'T. It is much easier to trace where the pins go to and solder to a thru plated hole on the same run. There is another 256k upgrade now being sold in the Portland area that I have seen that utilized a four pin connector to go to the IC without any soldering. (May have been sold by Best Electronics when they were up here for show???) Also, Best Electronics has a series of upgrades for any Atari, but these involve heavy amounts of wiring. Both Newell and RAMBO XL involve essentially piggybacking a new ecboard with some additional wiring. 3 - Regardless of how much David Young protests, neither the Newell upgrade nor the RAMBO XL are absolutely 100% compatible with an Atari 130XE as neither uses the "Freddy" chip. RAMBO XL has a lot of compatability problems regarding what is shown on the screen, it does not maintain the proper display, David can explain this better then I can. Newell is about 99% compatible, however, it takes a toggle switch installed to allow its use with XLent's Typesetter program (I may have name wrong) -- if you do not plan on purchasing this then don't worry. HOWEVER, it also is not 100% compatible with the Atari Planetarium program. Planetarium will work on a 800XLE (my nomenclature for a 256k 800XL) but during the "slewing" command and during other calculations, it allows garbage on the screen, whereas a 130XE shows a different colored screen during the calculations. (I have tried Planetarium on my 130XE, 800XLE and 1200XLE, it works 100% with the 130XE, as above on the 800XLE, and has a lot of bugs on the 1200XLE. In fact it will not load on a 1200XL or XLE without a translator disk. Both of my XLE's are Newell upgrades.) When Newell or someone else starts using the Freddy chip as Neil @ Atari suggests, then they should be 100% compatible. 99% is not bad, however. 4 - I would suggest getting and installing both omniview and 256k togeth 5 - "RAMROD XL" is "RAMBO XL", I believe. At any rate, it is a competitor to the Newell upgrade and is not as compatible. Suggest that you talk to David Young or John Sangster, they can help with some of the more technical aspects of this, I am merely a hardware kludge installer, read kit-basher, I merely follow the instructions. Connect wire a to pin b, etc. --Bill