Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!sundc!hadron!jsdy From: jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Slaying Gould dragon with a wooden horse Message-ID: <612@hadron.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Nov-86 09:31:08 EST Article-I.D.: hadron.612 Posted: Wed Nov 12 09:31:08 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Nov-86 20:22:38 EST References: <161@unisec.UUCP> <694@ulowell.UUCP> Reply-To: jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao) Organization: Hadron, Inc., Fairfax, VA Lines: 18 Keywords: secure unix trojan horse gould Summary: support (old, re-posted due to tx error) Xref: mnetor comp.unix.questions:21 comp.unix.wizards:35 Darryl, I quite agree with you. Any company that claims to have solved security measures with hardware and software is either being ignorant, or themselves immoral and fraudulent. (And if they gave you a card with their netaddr, please forward that comment!) Any security system must include people training as well as whatever software and hardware. Besides, their system (as you described it) did have holes, which you "legitimately" exploited. The only secure system is one sealed in the center of the earth ... or the sun. One Who Knows. -- Joe Yao hadron!jsdy@seismo.{CSS.GOV,ARPA,UUCP} jsdy@hadron.COM (not yet domainised)