Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!C.CS.CMU.EDU!KRULWICH From: KRULWICH@C.CS.CMU.EDU (Bruce Krulwich) Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: symbols: syntax vs semantics Message-ID: <8610190504.AA08083@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 17-Oct-86 13:29:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8610190504.AA08083 Posted: Fri Oct 17 13:29:00 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 19-Oct-86 04:23:09 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 29 Approved: ailist@sri-stripe.arpa i think that the main thing i disagree with about Searle's work and recent points in this discussion is the claim that symbols, and in general any entity that a computer will process, can only be dealt with in terms of syntax. i disagree. for example, when i add two integers, the bits that the integers are encoded in are interpreted semantically to combine to form an integer. the same could be said about a symbol that i pass to a routine in an object-oriented system such as CLU, where what is done with the symbol depends on it's type (which i claim is it's semantics) i think that the reason that computers are so far behind the human brain in semantic interpretation and in general "thinking" is that the brain contains a hell of a lot more information than most computer systems, and also the brain makes associations much faster, so an object (ie, a thought) is associated with its semantics almost instantly. bruce krulwich arpa: krulwich@c.cs.cmu.edu bitnet: bk0a%tc.cc.cmu.edu@cmuccvma uucp: (??) ... uw-beaver!krulwich@c.cs.cmu.edu or ... ucbvax!krulwich@c.cs.cmu.edu "Life's too short to ponder garbage"