Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!CAIP.RUTGERS.EDU!segall From: segall@CAIP.RUTGERS.EDU (Ed Segall) Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: Re: Emergent Consciousness Message-ID: <8609291807.AA29461@caip.rutgers.edu> Date: Mon, 29-Sep-86 14:07:12 EDT Article-I.D.: caip.8609291807.AA29461 Posted: Mon Sep 29 14:07:12 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 6-Oct-86 06:14:42 EDT References: <12241790568.26.LAWS@SRI-STRIPE.ARPA> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 27 Approved: ailist@sri-stripe.arpa Why must we presume that the seat of consciousness must be in the form of neural "circuits"? What's to prevent it from being a symbolic, logical entity, rather than a physical entity? After all, the "center of control" of most computers is some sort of kernal program, running on the exact same hardware as the other programs. (Don't try to push the analogy too far, you can probably find a hole in it.) Perhaps the hierarchical system referred to is also not structural. Might the brain operate even more like a conventional computer than we realize, taking the role of an extremely sophisticated (self-modifying) interpreter? The "program" that is interpreted is the pattern of firings occurring at any given time. If this is so, then moment-to-moment thought is almost completely in terms of the dynamic information contained in neural signals, rather than the quasi-static information contained in neural interconnections. The neurons simply serve to "run" the thoughts. This seems obvious to me, since I am assuming that neural firings can process information much faster than structural changes in neurons. I'd be interested to know about what rate neuron firings occur in the brain, and if anyone has an intelligent guess as to how much information can be stored at once in the "dynamic" form of firings rather than the "static" form of interconnections. I apologize in advance if what I suggest goes against well-understood knowlege (not theory) of how the brain operates. My information is from the perspective of a lay person, not a cognitive scientist.