Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!BRL.ARPA!abc From: abc@BRL.ARPA Newsgroups: mod.politics Subject: (none) Message-ID: <12245540757.68.MCGREW@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Thu, 9-Oct-86 20:44:25 EDT Article-I.D.: RED.12245540757.68.MCGREW Posted: Thu Oct 9 20:44:25 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 9-Oct-86 22:21:12 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: abc@BRL.ARPA Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 40 Approved: poli-sci@red.rutgers.edu SAPPHO@SRI-NIC.ARPA writes: > >I'm with Keith on this one. I see no reason why it would be harder >to persuade companies not to do drug testing by organizing employees >privately to refuse than by getting the government to pass a law >against it. Current events show that "organized" employees are no match for well-heeled employers in contract negotiations. The TWA flight attendants took their pay cut. The dockworkers in this area face a $5.00/hour pay cut. In the face, of all that, I don't see how employees could exercise any strength in the face of company unwillingness to negotiate. > > >2. The government could enumerate unreliable tests, which it would >ban (so people couldn't not be hired on such weak evidence). Then >someone could come up with another unreliable test, which employers >would use. > Why can not the government certify the procedures and/or the labs that conduct them? Medical labs, weights and measures, meat processing, all are examples of areas well-regulated by one level of government or another. Is it too much to expect similar certification of the reliabiliity of drug tests? > >3. The government could enumerate jobs it considers critical enough >to public safety to allow the employers to do drug testing. But the >government knows much less about whose safety is involved than the >people working in the industry, so why should it make the decision? > Right! That's why we have OSHA. Industry might "know" what's safe but they worry only about what will cost them money, not what's best for the employee! -- Brint Cooper ARPA: abc@brl.arpa UUCP: ...{seismo,unc,decvax,cbosgd}!brl-smoke!abc -------