Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!D.ISI.EDU!GOWER From: GOWER@D.ISI.EDU (Neil E. Gower) Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Congestion in the Arpanet Message-ID: <8610031636.AA00904@ucbvax> Date: Thu, 2-Oct-86 11:33:44 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8610031636.AA00904 Posted: Thu Oct 2 11:33:44 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Oct-86 07:06:23 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 24 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Dennis, thanks for the copy of BBNs progress and plan of attack. We are having trouble understanding why the busiest nodes are not in the middle of the cross-country paths (SAC, TEXAS and COLLINS (ours)). Or at the entrances to those paths. The only one of the four mentioned by BBN, which seems to fit the "cross-country bottleneck" is UWISC. There also seems to be no explanation why a PSN cannot give reasonable response between two of its own nodes. We see just as poor (or worse) service between equipment in the same room here as we do between here and D.ISI.EDU (ISI27). Maybe its because our packets are going to ISI27 or somewhere else first. It does seem that all four of the PSNs mentioned are in areas where heavy (not necessarily cross-country) traffic would occur. This would indicate problems in the areas of shortages of packet buffers and/or virtual circuits and/or slowness in setting up virtual circuits. I agree that we have an ONION of problems, but wouldn't it make sense to resolve the ones that are "localized" to one PSN first? Regards, Neil Gower -------