Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!topaz!christian From: manis@ubc-cs.UUCP (Vincent Manis) Newsgroups: mod.religion.christian Subject: Re: God's use of his power Message-ID: <6524@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Mon, 27-Oct-86 00:57:09 EST Article-I.D.: topaz.6524 Posted: Mon Oct 27 00:57:09 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 27-Oct-86 05:42:21 EST Sender: hedrick@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU Organization: UBC Department of Computer Science Lines: 41 Approved: christian@topaz.UUCP It may be presumptuous of me as a non-Christian to post to this newsgroup, but I felt I had to reply to the posting which discussed God's fomenting of racial hatred. [There is no requirement that authors must be Christians, just that the subject matter must be relevant to Christianity. --clh] Anyone who accepts the principle of God's omnipotence is indeed driven to see God doing evil things, ranging from the confounding of the builders of the Tower of Babel through the Holocaust to the spreading of AIDS. All of these miseries are the work of God or God's creations, and surely an omnipotent, loving God would act to stop these. One possibility is that God does these things for some greater good. For example, God afflicts a baby with Down's syndrome so that its parents can learn to love. God does not prevent a drunk motorist from killing a fourteen-year old girl so that her sister can repent of her alcoholism. God gives a gay man AIDS to punish him for his violation of the Law as expressed in Romans. This view of God as a utilitarian is internally consistent, and has widespread, if selective, approval. Yet I personally find it so repulsive that I would rather not believe in a God at all than to believe in one who would choose to kill a million Kampucheans in order to demonstrate the evils of totalitarianism. The only other alternative has to be that we must deny God's omnipotence. God would prevent evil if it were possible, but for reasons both within and beyond our understanding, God is unable to do so. This then imposes a tremendous obligation upon us not only to take responsibility for our actions, but also to accept those situations where grief and pain occur unavoidably, and to call on God for help in enduring such situations. A non-omnipotent God is one who needs our help: in making ourselves one with God we attempt to determine as best we can the nature of good and evil, and we endeavour to choose the good. Sitting back and waiting for God to act is guaranteed to fail; not because "God helps those who help themselves", but because God *cannot* help someone who chooses not to act. Now, once I reconcile this with the Book of Job, I'll really have something...