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From: std-unix@ut-sally.UUCP (Moderator, John Quarterman)
Newsgroups: mod.std.unix
Subject: Re: job control
Message-ID: <6004@ut-sally.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 14-Oct-86 12:44:57 EDT
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Organization: IEEE P1003 Portable Operating System for Computer Environments Committee
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Keywords: windows virtual consoles termcap terminfo
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From: campbell%maynard.UUCP@harvisr.harvard.edu (Larry Campbell)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 86 11:43:38 EDT
Organization: The Boston Software Works, Inc.

In article <5990@ut-sally.UUCP> guy@sun.com (Guy Harris) writes:

>This sort of windowing mechanism doesn't even necessarily require a
>memory-mapped screen; it merely needs a way to redraw a window when it moves
>to the front.  Mark Horton's earlier message describes a window manager for
>dumb terminals; it even permits more than one window on the screen.

Of course, but I suspect that redrawing windows over a serial line
would be tedious -- unless the serial line were running at 56KB or better.

>As for the window size "ioctl", consider this: any program that thinks it's
>always dealing with a "perfectly ordinary 24x80 terminal" is going to be
>quite surprised when run on an Ann Arbor Ambassador with 60 lines.  Programs
>should not make assumptions like that.

That was an oversimplification on my part.  Of course programs should
(and most do) query termcap/terminfo.  However, they can safely assume
that the window size isn't going to change while they're running, and
this assumption reduces complexity.
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