Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!ucbcad!nike!rutgers!caip!clyde!cuae2!ltuxa!we53!sw013b!dj3b1!killer!ndmce!pollux!infotel!ut-ngp!ut-sally!std-unix From: std-unix@ut-sally.UUCP@ndmce.uucp (Moderator, John Quarterman) Newsgroups: mod.std.unix Subject: Re: job control Message-ID: <324@ndmce.uucp> Date: Fri, 17-Oct-86 17:05:39 EDT Article-I.D.: ndmce.324 Posted: Fri Oct 17 17:05:39 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Oct-86 22:02:51 EDT References: <6001@ut-sally.UUCP> <5965@ut-sally.UUCP> <5932@ut-sally.UUCP> <5991@ut-sally.UUCP> Sender: news@ndmce.uucp Organization: IEEE P1003 Portable Operating System for Computer Environments Committee Lines: 20 Approved: jsq@sally.utexas.edu From: guy@sun.com (Guy Harris) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 86 11:18:03 PDT > What I meant is that certain common elements should be standardized, > in particular, the ioctl to get and set the current window size. > These all look the same, but with different particulars. This isn't really just a window system issue; the current "termios" proposal avoids referring to it as a "window" size. One could imagine features, such as end-of-"page" pauses in the TTY driver, that would use this information even on dumb terminals. > By the way, I think both "get" and "set" operations should be standardized, > and the standard should state that both ioctls must work on both sides of > the pty. (This assumes we can appropriately specify what a "pty" is.) The "set" operation is in the "termios" proposal; since "pty"s aren't, it doesn't say anything about whether the operation works on both sides or not. Volume-Number: Volume 7, Number 61