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From: harnad@mind.UUCP (Stevan Harnad)
Newsgroups: net.ai,net.cog-eng
Subject: Re: Searle, Turing, Symbols, Categories
Message-ID: <113@mind.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 1-Nov-86 15:34:02 EST
Article-I.D.: mind.113
Posted: Sat Nov  1 15:34:02 1986
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Organization: Cognitive Science, Princeton University
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Summary: Netiquette
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In his second net.ai comment on the abstracts of the two articles under
discussion, me@utai.UUCP (Daniel Simon) wrote:

>>	WHAT DOES THE "TOTAL TURING TEST" LOOK LIKE?...  Please
>>	forgive my impertinent questions, but I haven't read your
>>	articles, and I'm not exactly clear about what this "total"
>>	Turing test entails.

I replied (after longish attempts to explain in two separate iterations):

>"Try reading the articles."

Daniel Simon rejoined:

>	Well, not only did I consider this pretty snide, but when I sent you
>	mail privately, asking politely where I can find the articles in
>	question, I didn't even get an answer, snide or otherwise. So starting
>	with this posting, I refuse to apologize for being impertinent.
>	Nyah, nyah, nyah.

The same day, the following email came from Daniel Simon:

>	Subject:  Hoo, boy, did I put my foot in it:
>	Ooops....Thank you very much for sending me the articles, and I'm sorry
>	I called you snide in my last posting. If you see a bright scarlet glow 
>	in the distance, looking west from Princeton, it's my face. Serves me
>	right for being impertinent in the first place... As soon as I finish
>	reading the papers, I'll respond in full--assuming you still care what
>	I have to say... Thanks again. Yours shamefacedly, Daniel R. Simon.

This is a very new form of communication for all of us. We're just going to
have to work out a new code of Nettiquette. With time, it'll come. I
continue to care what anyone says with courtesy and restraint, and
intend to respond to everything of which I succeed in making sense.


Stevan Harnad
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