Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watnot.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watnot!ccplumb From: ccplumb@watnot.UUCP (Colin Plumb) Newsgroups: net.arch,net.periphs Subject: Re: Why optical disks are slow to seek; an idea for higher capacity disks Message-ID: <12152@watnot.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Nov-86 22:17:58 EST Article-I.D.: watnot.12152 Posted: Tue Nov 4 22:17:58 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Nov-86 06:32:41 EST References: <1128@tekig5.UUCP> <5100141@ccvaxa> <553@cubsvax.UUCP> <2474@peora.UUCP> <1256@hoptoad.uucp> Reply-To: ccplumb@watnot.UUCP (Colin Plumb) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 34 Xref: watmath net.arch:4186 net.periphs:1275 Summary: In article <1256@hoptoad.uucp> gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes: > >I don't understand why nobody has built magnetic disks that spin at >a constant speed, but vary the clocking of data to the disk so that >all the bits end up the same width on the media. This means that you >might get 30,000 bytes per track on the inside and 90,000 on the >outside -- but who cares? On a SCSI interface, the system doesn't know >where the tracks and cylinders are anyway. > >I don't know how to figure it out exactly, but I suspect that this >simple change (to a disk and its controller) could double the amount of >stuff you could put on the same disk with the same heads and almost the >same electronics. >-- >John Gilmore {sun,ptsfa,lll-crg,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu jgilmore@lll-crg.arpa >terrorist, cryptography, DES, drugs, cipher, secret, decode, NSA, CIA, NRO. > The above is food for the NSA line eater. Add it to your .signature and > you too can help overflow the NSA's ability to scan all traffic going in or > out of the USA looking for "significant" words. (This is not a joke, sadly.) They didn't carry it as far as possible, but Commodore varied the clock rates on their 5-1/4" drives for the PETs and C-64s. The difference was, I believe, between 17 sectors on the inner tracks and 21 on the outer ones (don't quote me on those figures). You could do the same thing on an optical disk, since data-storage applications don't require constant bit-rates, the way real-time audio output does. Is there an expert out there who could shed more light on the subject? -Colin Plumb (ccplumb@watnot.UUCP) "You do have one slim chance for survival. This illness is so fatal it's been known to kill itself by accident." -Sillier than Silly