Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!brl-adm!seismo!lll-crg!nike!sri-spam!sri-unix!hplabs!tektronix!uw-beaver!ubc-vision!alberta!cdshaw From: cdshaw@alberta.UUCP Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: Re: Re: Role of computer science Message-ID: <96@alberta.UUCP> Date: Mon, 27-Oct-86 18:39:38 EST Article-I.D.: alberta.96 Posted: Mon Oct 27 18:39:38 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Nov-86 06:22:55 EST References: <1195@hoptoad.uucp> <3526@utcsri.UUCP> <418@uwmacc.UUCP> Reply-To: cdshaw@pembina.UUCP (Chris Shaw) Organization: U. of Alberta, Edmonton, AB Lines: 28 Summary: Recent CACM article explains why In article <418@uwmacc.UUCP> anderson@uwmacc.UUCP (Jess Anderson) writes: >(2 people) are providing two very different views of academic computing. >.... While in my >view each person with any sense will do his/her best to be >active in both dimensions at once, there seems to be a fairly >pronouced drift of the pendulum towards the vocational side >right now. People want jobs, and they want the universities to >certify them as employable. To the extent one doesn't want >to work *for* a university, one had better get some such >certification, for there is real competition for jobs in >computing, at least the better jobs. A recent CACM article (Sept. 1986) explains why, to some extent, the practical side of CS is being emphasized by undergrads. There is far more demand for CS grads than supply, so the money is good, and pretty well anyone is able to do the job in some cases. What's the point? As soon as the pipeline is filled with enough people to satisfy industry's demand for qualified staff, the emphasis at the schools will change to a more theoretical tone. Right now, the main problem is excess jobs for the number of people, at all degree levels. If and when this is no longer the case, CS will become more "academic". >anderson@unix.macc.wisc.edu===Jess Anderson====== Chris Shaw cdshaw@alberta University of Alberta CatchPhrase: Bogus as HELL !