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Subject: Re: Looking for TCP/IP for HP9000 running HP/UX
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Date: Fri, 24-Oct-86 22:03:31 EDT
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Posted: Fri Oct 24 22:03:31 1986
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From: jon@oddhack.Caltech.Edu (Jon Leech)
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In article <1226@hoptoad.uucp> gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes:
>In article <171@gt-eedsp.UUCP>, deb@gt-eedsp.UUCP (Deb Jackson) writes:
>> We've got 2 HP-9000's (300 series) running HP/UX, with ethernet.  
>> The problem is that the HP's don't have TCP/IP, so we've got a
>> real problem trying to get them to talk to our Vax running 4.2BSD(BRL).
>
>The October 86 issue of the HP Journal just arrived here last week.
>It's all about networking and HP's AdvanceNet architecture.  Turns
>out that they *did* implement TCP/IP on the HP 3000 series, but the
>HP 9000's have to suffer with HP proprietary protocols for file transfer
>and remote file system access.  No standard protocols are provided,
>except that if you really want to, you can read and write raw Ethernet
>packets (gee thanks!).  You could probably cobble something together
>to talk to your Vaxen this way.

    We have 10 HP 9000/320s running HP-UX (essentially System V). As
one of the HP AI Grant recipients, we have recieved lots of software 
developed at HP Labs including ports of the 4.3 BSD networking utilities.
We are running the full set (ftp, telnet, rlogin, rsh, rwho, etc.) with
relatively few problems. I believe this software will become a supported
product eventually.

    Incidentally, HP's RFA product (one of the `proprietary protocols'
mentioned above) is nowhere near as nifty as NFS, but it does provide
a distributed file system among our machines; it's a lot better than
`suffering' with ftp or uucp.
	
	-- Jon Leech (...seismo!cit-vax!jon || jon@csvax.caltech.edu)
	Caltech Computer Science Graphics Group
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