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From: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid)
Newsgroups: net.dcom,net.micro.hp
Subject: Re: Looking for TCP/IP for HP9000 running HP/UX
Message-ID: <299@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 31-Oct-86 05:10:20 EST
Article-I.D.: stracs.299
Posted: Fri Oct 31 05:10:20 1986
Date-Received: Wed, 5-Nov-86 06:17:25 EST
References: <171@gt-eedsp.UUCP> <1226@hoptoad.uucp>
Reply-To: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid)
Organization: Department of Computer Science at Strathclyde University, UK.
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In article <1226@hoptoad.uucp> gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes:
>In article <171@gt-eedsp.UUCP>, deb@gt-eedsp.UUCP (Deb Jackson) writes:
>> We've got 2 HP-9000's (300 series) running HP/UX, with ethernet.  
>> The problem is that the HP's don't have TCP/IP, so we've got a
>> real problem trying to get them to talk to our Vax running 4.2BSD(BRL).
>
>The October 86 issue of the HP Journal just arrived here last week.
>It's all about networking and HP's AdvanceNet architecture.  Turns
>out that they *did* implement TCP/IP on the HP 3000 series, but the
>HP 9000's have to suffer with HP proprietary protocols for file transfer
>and remote file system access.  No standard protocols are provided,
>except that if you really want to, you can read and write raw Ethernet
>packets (gee thanks!).  You could probably cobble something together
>to talk to your Vaxen this way.
>
>Hard to believe that they did all the development to build TCP/IP on
>the 3000's, but for Unix, where an implementation was available for free,
>they didn't bother...

Yes, this is very annoying. We have just bought a 9000/560 series which
has no Ethernet software at all. [We bought the machine because it's ideal
for one of our teaching labs as a "standalone" machine.] We have been told
that HP are paying the Wollongong (sp?) Group to port the BSD TCP/IP software
to this beast. This is crazy when as John Gilmore says HP could have had the
code for nothing. [OK SysV != BSD, but it shouldn't be *that* much work.]
Instead, we have to wait for a third party to develop and provide the code.
Meantime, we're itching to add the machine to our network.

		Jim

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