Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-crg!seismo!rochester!ritcv!iav1917 From: iav1917@ritcv.UUCP (alan i. vymetalik) Newsgroups: net.lang.pascal Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for the Macintosh Message-ID: <220@ritcv.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Nov-86 01:30:51 EST Article-I.D.: ritcv.220 Posted: Fri Nov 7 01:30:51 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Nov-86 03:56:05 EST References: <1124@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Reply-To: iav1917@ritcv.UUCP (alan i. vymetalik) Distribution: world Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY Lines: 73 Keywords: Turbo Pascal Mac [Now, where did that line eater get to?] > This is all very interesting.... a response has appeared on the board >before my post has even appeared there! But anyway.... This happens sometimes due to the nature of the net. 'Most paths are equal. Some are more equal than others.' Depending on the route a posting has taken, I have had answers appear a day before the question arrives at my site. VERY disturbing. Sorta like time travel... >Turbo Pascal for the Macintosh has been promised for MONTHS, and now, they're >just getting around to advertising it...In those months, my view of Borland >was been shaken a bit. Don't feel bad. Turbo C and Turbo Modula-2 are two packages Borland has hinted and nudged about. They 'may' be the products that will be announced at COMDEX: "Release of a previously committed project." My feelings towards Borland has always fluttered around uneasy. If they manage to produce an optimizing Pascal compiler that can link into libraries and allow me access to the full address space of the machine, I'll continue to use Turbo. However, a lot of my work is being converted to C. So, I think C is where I'll stay. :-( >My favorite Pascal compiler is Lightspeed Pascal for the Macintosh. It offers >high compilation speed (I've measured about 7000 lines per minute for my >code)... While I confess I do not have much time anymore to play with a Macintosh (I started programming on them when they first came out... don't have enough free time anymore), I still think the machine is an incredible piece of hardware (especially the Plus). Anyway, I don't care what machine it is...7000 lpm is FAST. >>large memory model > >Can you explain that? Is that just a compatibility thing for Turbo for the >PC? Otherwise, a "Large Memory Model" makes no sense on a nonsegmented >machine like the Macintosh (sorry, slight slam at the PC there.. 8-) ). >Unless you're talking about long-worded addressing, which (in my opinion), >ALL compilers should do... Ah, here's where the MS-DOS world has brain damaged me!... After doing so much programming and re-inventing the wheel working with the damned Intel processor (8088, 80286) family, I completely forgot that there are other REAL machines out there. Yes, I hang my head in submission...these processors can be downright confusing sometimes. What I meant to ask was the compiler's capability of accessing the entire address space available to the processor. A full 32-bit microprocessor, such as the 80386, has an INCREDIBLE amount a memory addresses at its beck and call. Any compiler that cannot talk to each byte of memory is a waste. >I've not heard about Turbo 4.0 for the PC....The public clusters here have >Turbo 3.0..... Has anyone? Any Co-ops out there who have worked for Borland want to spill the beans? Just kidding, folks! I commend the silence on the insiders who exist on the net..but, the waiting is ridiculous. > --Rich Thanks, Rich. Enjoy, Alan ================================================= alan i. vymetalik uucp: {allegra,seismo}!rochester!ritcv!iav1917 =================================================