Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!codas!peora!pesnta!amd!intelca!clif From: clif@intelca.UUCP (Clif Purkiser) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: Re: 386 PC vs Sun Message-ID: <144@intelca.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-Oct-86 13:57:28 EDT Article-I.D.: intelca.144 Posted: Tue Oct 14 13:57:28 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 17-Oct-86 10:08:22 EDT References: <4104@brl-smoke.ARPA> <9400015@uiucuxa> Organization: Intel, Santa Clara, Ca. Lines: 44 > > The fact that IBM wanted to use the 68k for it's microprocessor > is a clue as to which one is better. Can you think of any major > computer out since the 68000 that (except for compatibility reasons) > doesn't use a 68000. Alot of the software for a 80386 is going to be > taken, without rewrite, from a 8088. That software is going to use the > 'brain damaged register set' and assume a segmented archeture. > > The 68000 is the wave of the future. > > > We're not big, but we will be. What the definition of a major computer? In the 68000 world I can only think of a few: Mac, Amiga, Atari that have sold 50K+ units. I would of course agree that Sun, and Apollo and several other workstation companies make "major computers". I think your questions is "what computers use the 8086 architecture other than MS-DOS machines?" The answer is quite a few. Convergent Technologies: Several hundred thousands NGEN workstations use the 80186, and the 80286. (Incidentally they run CT's OS CTOS not MS-DOS this makes CTOS more popular than Unix ) Altos: sells thousands of 80x86 based computers running Xenix. Daisy: uses the 80286 for its engineering workstations These three companies to the best of my knowledge all used the 80x86 architecture eventhough the 68000 was available. In addition their are scores if not hundreds of companies that use 80x86 that don't make PC clones. Prime, ICL, Nixdorf, Compugraphic, and SCI are a few that come immediately to mind. However, I don't know if they choose the 80x86 prior to the availability of the 68000. My apologies to all of the companies I didn't list. -- Clif Purkiser, Intel, Santa Clara, Ca. {pur-ee,hplabs,amd,scgvaxd,dual,idi,omsvax}!intelca!clif I guess I better put back the old disclaimer line. These views are my own property. However anyone who wants them can have them.