Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!gatech!lll-lcc!well!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac,net.micro.68k Subject: Re: What's Nu with VME for Mac? Message-ID: <1240@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Tue, 28-Oct-86 21:23:06 EST Article-I.D.: hoptoad.1240 Posted: Tue Oct 28 21:23:06 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 29-Oct-86 22:09:16 EST References: <842@gould9.UUCP> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 34 Keywords: NuBus, VME, slotted Mac Xref: mnetor net.micro.mac:7743 net.micro.68k:1402 In article <842@gould9.UUCP>, joel@gould9.UUCP (Joel West) writes: > Would anyone care to comment on the technical advantages to using > either bus? From a marketing standpoint, I would think VME would > offer a strong advantage. The advantages to a company of using a standard bus are mainly these: * Your customers can plug in lots of cards to customize their system. * Your customers can benefit from new technologies faster because you (or they) can get new cards from third parties. Disks, disk controllers, networking cards, tapes, serial ports, etc are all easier to buy than to build, and the companies that specialize in building them often do a better job than a system manufacturer like Apple would. (Remember the horrible Apple hard disks? Remember the slow Mac floppies? The Mac network that only talks to itself? Third parties would go bankrupt if they tried to sell such stuff.) The Nu bus is not a standard, and has been adopted by few companies. The VMEbus is, and seems to be the "Multibus of the '80s" as far as peripheral card availability. By the way, it is a "VMEbus", and the cards that go in it are "VMEbus cards", not "VME cards". You don't talk about plugging Uni cards into your Unibus, do you? The other important characteristic of a system bus is that it not get in the way. But this is less important than the above. Things that you really need to be fast (e.g. main memory) can be put on a private bus. It's a real drag waiting a few years to be able to plug in a simple thing like a cheap or fast hard disk because nobody has built the controller for your system. Mac and Lisa owners (pre-mac plus) know about this. -- John Gilmore {sun,ptsfa,lll-crg,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu jgilmore@lll-crg.arpa Overheard at a funeral: "I know this may be an awkward time, but do you recall him ever mentioning source code?" -- Charles Addams