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From: beilke@puff.wisc.edu (Matt Beilke)
Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga
Subject: Re: Tan versus blue floppies (DS vs SS)
Message-ID: <298@puff.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 3-Nov-86 11:28:54 EST
Article-I.D.: puff.298
Posted: Mon Nov  3 11:28:54 1986
Date-Received: Tue, 4-Nov-86 05:19:06 EST
References: <1029@navajo.STANFORD.EDU> <313@neoucom.UUCP> <278@puff.wisc.edu> <4409@reed.UUCP>
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In article <4409@reed.UUCP>, jeanne@reed.UUCP (Jeanne A. E. DeVoto) writes:
> In article <313@neoucom.UUCP>, wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) wrote:
> >> The main thing is to worry about making sure that you buy 2S2D
> >> diskettes, as the 1S2D may eventually shed oxide (and your data)
> >> off the unpolished side.
> and then in article <278@puff.wisc.edu> beilke@puff.wisc.edu (Matt Beilke)
> wrote:
> >  This is also VERY important.  Don't you realize that those single
> >sided disks are single sided for a reason?  One side did not pass the
> >quality test!  So if you are willing to risk your data and/or programs
> >to a defective disk, well, all I can say is, tough luck if you lose it.
> 
> Sorry, but you're both wrong.
> All manufacturers of 3.5" microfloppies that I know of polish both
> sides of the disk, first of all.  Oxide ain't going to come off.

> On the point that Matt makes: most single-sided floppies either aren't
> tested at all on the second side, or test fine on both.  It is rare to...
  
  A) You quoted me out of context, I did NOT say the oxide was going to
     rub off.
     
  B) If the single sided disk are not tested, how do they determine which
     disks are to be single sided and which are to be double sided?
     (Perhaps a random sorter)

  C) Back to the point, they failure rates of single sided disks are _MUCH_
     higher than the failure rates of double sided disks. (And this is
     what I meant by what I said.)
     
>     What I do know is that I use a fairly large number of these disks, and
> I never buy disks labeled as DS if I can help it (because of the price 
> difference).  I have noted no higher a rate of failure than on identical 
> disks I use as SS.

    All I can say is that so far you have been very lucky.
    
>                   ...  But I am disheartened by the attitude shown here
> whenever the Mac is mentioned.  ("Hostility" is not too strong a word to
> use for it.)  I have seen the Mac lumped in with the IBM PC, presumably ...

    Well,  the Mac shouldn't really be discussed in this newsgroup at all,
except for comparisons.  What you say however is true,  the Mac is a nice
little machine in its own right, BUT it lacks open architecture, true
multitasking, etc.  Besides, its natural for someone to say 
'My Computer is better than yours.'

NOTE:  This arcticle was NOT meant to be a flame at Jeanne.

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