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From: dgg@ci-dandelion.UUCP (Dave Grubbs)
Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga
Subject: Desperation.
Message-ID: <201@ci-dandelion.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 3-Nov-86 11:45:04 EST
Article-I.D.: ci-dande.201
Posted: Mon Nov  3 11:45:04 1986
Date-Received: Wed, 5-Nov-86 05:50:03 EST
Reply-To: dgg@ci-dandelion.UUCP (Dave Grubbs)
Organization: Cognition, Inc., Billerica, Ma.
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I am a 4.2/4.3/Ultrix kernel hacker.  In the past 8 years, I have
written nearly .5M lines of code in 16 languages (incl.  6 assembly
languages).  I mention this to indicate that I know what computers and
compilers are.  The Amiga was bought to learn 68K assembly, to store
personal data, and to hack on visual, sound, and control programs.  I
enjoy hacking, so I started compiling the Fish sources, some Unix
programs and some programs of my own. 

I have purchased both compilers, Lattice (bacause I didn't know any
better when I first got my Amiga) and Manx (so I don't have to "port"
every program the Manx hackers write). 

Enough background.  I have a serious problem.  Though every commerial
program (including the compilers) and every Fish disk executable seem to
run just fine, every program bigger than "Hello World", that *I* have
compiled, fails with one of 5 damn GURU messages. 

The one which finally got me is the "cc" program on Fish disk #29.  I
compiled it with Manx, using "cc cc.c" and "ln -o cc cc.o -lc" (I know
about CLIB and ram:) and it compiled with no errors.  When I execute
it, the system hangs.  CTRL-Amiga-Amiga has a 50% chance of showing a
GURU at this point.  I put "printf's" in and sometimes they show up and
sometimes they don't. 

Well, what I am really asking for is what these damn things mean or how
to find out myself.  I haven't seen any mention of GURU, other than
obliquely, since I started reading this news group:

	#00000003.00004F92
	#00000003.000097B0	(A favorite -- it shows up EVERYWHERE)
	#00000004.000027D2
	#84000009.48454C50	("HELP"?  I had guessed these were addresses.)
	#0000000B.2C6DFFFC

Could I have my hardware set up wrong?  (Then why does every executable I run,
that was not created on my machine, work just fine?)  Could I be missing some
important compiler switches?  (Then why do the makefiles provided with the
Fish sources do no harm to anyone else? -- Remember, I have both compilers.)

I have tried the dealer, but they don't seem to care about the Amiga any more.
In any case, they don't have any hackers, just sales types.
If I can't get help from the net, this frustrating monster is going out the
window.  I'll scrape enough money together to go buy a Sun or a microVAX.