Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!princeton!allegra!ulysses!bellcore!petrus!magic!joevax!sdh From: sdh@joevax.UUCP (The Doctor) Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: Re: ][+ w/munged memory Message-ID: <320@joevax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-Oct-86 10:22:44 EDT Article-I.D.: joevax.320 Posted: Thu Oct 16 10:22:44 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 17-Oct-86 03:16:47 EDT References: <861015190558.956605@HI-MULTICS.ARPA> Organization: Bell Communications Research Inc., Morristown, NJ Lines: 39 > My ][+ has the following hard memory failure: at locations 8000 and > above, the monitor commands > > *8000: 00 00 00 00 00 > > *8000.8004 > > results in a display of > > 40 40 40 40 40 > This means that the seventh bit is being set all the time. One of your ram chips is bad. Here's one way to fix the problem: run a ram test on it. If your local Apple dealer wants to keep you as a customer, they should be more than willing to give you a copy of the apple approved ram test program, or borrow an Integer Basic firmare card, since it contains a ram test on board. Either should tell you which 4116 is bad. Your other alternative: go to Radio Shack and buy 1 4116 ram chip. Locate the bank of 4116's on the motherboard. The row closest to the slots will contain the last 16k of ram --that's where your problem is. I don't know which of the chips is the bad one, but just use the process of elimination to find the bad chip. Most likely, it will be either the 2nd from the left or the 2nd from the right in that row. NOTE: always make sure the power is off before you swap chips, and beware of static elctricity. You may want to spread aluminium foil on the table under your apple, as that will help deter static charges. A side note, there are times when a bad ram chip will work just fine when swapped with another chip. I've done this before: found a bad chip, and swapped it with its neighbor, and removed the problem, but for piece of mind, you should use a new chip as the replacement. The reaseon why you can't boot your disk is that DOS is loaded in the last 16k of ram. Since your ram failure is there, every byte of dos is getting OR'ed with $40, thus making DOS invalid. Steve Hawley joevax!sdh