Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!ll-xn!mit-amt!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!tektronix!reed!kamath From: kamath@reed.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: Re: Compatibility of old Periphs w/ //gs Message-ID: <4350@reed.UUCP> Date: Wed, 22-Oct-86 15:24:15 EDT Article-I.D.: reed.4350 Posted: Wed Oct 22 15:24:15 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 23-Oct-86 07:20:26 EDT References: <708@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> <2153@ecsvax.UUCP> Reply-To: kamath@reed.UUCP (Sean Kamath) Distribution: net Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR Lines: 56 In article <2153@ecsvax.UUCP> ranger@ecsvax.UUCP (Rick N. Fincher) writes: > >The question of motherboards is interesting. You own your motherboard. >If the upgrade is an upgrade and not a swap, your dealer cannot legally >keep your motherboard. If part of the agreement is a swap, what will th >the dealer do with the old boards? When the ROM upgrade came out for >the //e the dealers were supposed to destroy the old ROMs to keep them >from winding up in clones. Most dealers would just give you the kit even >though the weren't supposed to. I would say to ask the dealer what >their policy is. If they insist on keeping your board tell them it's >illegal and maybe they will relent. You might also try removing your >board before you go in or just buy the upgrade kit and install it >yourself. Apple might have had a case with the ROM upgrades that the >programs in the ROMs were their property (even though the ROM itself >belonged to you) but in this case I don't believe they have a legal >case unless you agree to give up your old board as part of the deal. >Any lawyers out there with some expert advice on this point? > >Rick >ranger@ecsvax Well, I'm not a lawyer, but I work at an "authorized dealer" and I know that there is a big difference between the rom upgrade and the motherboard upgrade. The deal is that with the motherboard upgrade the dealer can send the old mb back to apple for credit. The couldn't with the roms. Now, you could ask the dealer to just outright get a motherboard for you. This will come from their "stock" rather than "exchange" price list. An example of this is a //e motherboard. It cost $499 (on the "old" price list) for the stock and $96 for the exchange. I think apple will give dealers a credit for returned mb's. It will be a "swap" upgrade. I just bought a second //e for $200 with monitor, two disk drives and disk I/F, so I'm all set to upgrade. ________________________________________________________________________________ Sean Kamath UUCP: {masscomp, decvax, allegra, psu-cs, ucbcad, ucbvax, purdue, hplabs, hp-pcd, sequent, uw-beaver, ihnp4, cbosgd, gatech, nsc-pdc}!tektronix!reed!kamath CSNET: reed!kamath@Tektronix.CSNET BITNET: reed!kamath@Berkeley.BITNET ARPA: tektronix!reed!kamath@Berkeley reed!kamath@hplabs DECNET: RHEA::DECWRL::"decvax!tektronix!reed!kamath" US Snail: Box 395 Reed College, Portland, OR 97202 (503) 239-7458 These are not the fastest or best paths, just the easiest to use. I hope they work. (Most notably the US Snail Service :-)