Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!j.cc.purdue.edu!k.cc.purdue.edu!ag0 From: ag0@k.cc.purdue.edu (Colin Jenkins) Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: Re: Apple ][ (early) trade ups? Message-ID: <1592@k.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Sat, 1-Nov-86 21:34:01 EST Article-I.D.: k.1592 Posted: Sat Nov 1 21:34:01 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Nov-86 00:04:12 EST References: <3859@jhunix.UUCP> Organization: Purdue University Computing Center Lines: 27 Summary: Wouldn't dream of parting with it! In article <3859@jhunix.UUCP>, ins_aeas@jhunix.UUCP (Earle A .Sugar) writes: > I have read postings concerning Apple accepting trade-ins of //e boards > towards a //GS. I have an early (I mean REAL early, serial #2047, 1977 vintage) > and I would like to trade it in for a //GS. Does the deal for the //e apply to > original ][s also? Or, is the computer worth more as an antique? It has the > original 'red book' manual complete with hand-drawn diagrams by Woz and > a complete source-code listing of the monitor rom, 'sweet-16' interpreter, and > mini-assembler inside. Of course, the machine has been upgraded since > it came out of the factory. Ever try to run DOS with 4k on the board? I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't dream of selling the above machine, and you may be right- it might pull in more bucks as an antique. Besides that though, I sincerely doubt that the upgrade will function properly in an old II (or even II+). For starters the //e keyboard has upper and lower case, not to mention the function keys (although a joystick could substitute for function keys). Probably Apple wants the //e motherboards so their roms can be destroyed. They probably would want to keep hold of the MMU and IOU chips as they are custom built. I would guess that they are not too concerned about roms from machines as old as yours. Beyond that, if Apple was planning to recover chips from the old //e motherboard, the chips in your Apple II are probably useless to them. Still, I would suggest you go to the source and write to Apple directly. All that aside, *I* wouldn't part with your machine- that's a piece of history. Colin