Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!rutgers!uwvax!uwmacc!oyster From: oyster@uwmacc.UUCP (Vicarious Oyster) Newsgroups: net.micro.atari16 Subject: Re: Two wonderful ST Programs Message-ID: <381@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 20-Oct-86 17:54:39 EDT Article-I.D.: uwmacc.381 Posted: Mon Oct 20 17:54:39 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 21-Oct-86 06:50:49 EDT References: <446@husc6.HARVARD.EDU> Reply-To: oyster@uwmacc.UUCP (Vicarious Oyster) Distribution: na Organization: UWisconsin-Madison Academic Comp Center Lines: 39 In article <446@husc6.HARVARD.EDU> olson@endor.UUCP (Eric Olson) writes: >> Eat my Line < > >Two WONDERFUL programs for the ST are: Beckmeyer's Multi-Tasking C Shell... >C-Shell: > The best. Fantastic. What can I say. If you like Unix, you'll >love this. Really does multitask. Really does multiuser. (Really wants >1 meg of RAM, but runs barely in 512K). Pipes, I/O redirection, filters, >environment variables, paths, shell scripts, history, aliases... it's >real! I can barely tell the difference from this and the Unix system >upon which I send this message. I love it! Caveat: Have 1 Meg. Have >a hard disk. (I don't know at all how well this runs on a floppy, it's >probably quite painful). ... > Non-MT C Shell (probably also very good, I don't know) $49.95 > I just got the Micro C-Shell (i.e. Non-MT), and it does all you report up there, except of course the multi-user/tasking stuff. It works quite well with my 1 meg, 2 floppy system. My development tools go in a 512K ramdisk, the SS drive holds the C-Shell, and the DS drive holds my work. Since the (arguably) most common unix-type commands are resident, there isn't a lot of disk access to the SS drive. The only problem I've found with it (and it's fairly minor) is that there are two separate shells; one for TOS-only work, and one which supports GEM programs. The problem is that the GEM version can't load at boot time from the AUTO folder. A minor inconvenience, like I said... Anyway, I believe I paid only $35 for the thing from Black Patch (yet another mail order place). And those who like their software without copy protection will be glad to hear that this isn't protected (I tried out a friend's copy before buying it... that's how things *should* work). -- - Joel Plutchak uucp: {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!oyster ARPA: oyster@unix.macc.wisc.edu BIX: plutch Can you say "opinion"? I *knew* you could!