Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-crg!seismo!rochester!cornell!batcomputer!braner From: braner@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU (braner) Newsgroups: net.micro.atari16 Subject: Re: 1040ST questions (C compilers) Message-ID: <1277@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> Date: Thu, 23-Oct-86 23:40:30 EST Article-I.D.: batcompu.1277 Posted: Thu Oct 23 23:40:30 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 26-Oct-86 01:54:19 EST References: <1978@ihuxl.UUCP> <2875@islenet.UUCP> Reply-To: braner@batcomputer.UUCP (braner) Distribution: net Organization: Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY Lines: 28 Summary: MWC good for "developers", not "personal" use! [] From what I've heard, Mark Williams C is great. The remaining problems are supposed to be solved in the next release. BUT: (THE CATCH!!!) You HAVE to have a hard disk to make any serious use of it!!! It is FAR too slow on floppies (to my taste). (And you HAVE to have TWO DOUBLE-SIDED floppies if you want to go that way...) It is too slow on a hard disk, too! So in my opinion Megamax is still the only viable option for "personal" (low-budget) use, and is superior to MWC in speed of compilation which is important to all users. Consider: Megamax is so compact I put the compiler, linker, libraries, microEMACS, utilities (from micro-C-Shell) in a (576K) RAM disk, and still have some 250K free RAM disk space left! In the rest of my 1040's RAM I have micro-C-Shell resident, and enough space to run all those things one at a time. Compiling and linking (all the way to a .prg file) a small (2-page) program takes about 15 seconds, all done in RAM. (MWC on a hard disk is an order of magnitude slower.) I can put the source for microEMACS (180K) on the RAM disk, and compile it completely in RAM! Now if only somebody would figure out how to make Megamax and I/O redirection from within Micro-C-Shell work together... - Moshe Braner