Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!unido!exunido!uh From: uh@exunido.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.atari16 Subject: Re: Re: Bug in HDX (SH-204 hard disk own - (nf) Message-ID: <96100031@exunido.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-Oct-86 06:20:00 EST Article-I.D.: exunido.96100031 Posted: Fri Oct 24 06:20:00 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 27-Oct-86 00:46:55 EST References: <441@atari.UUCP> Lines: 44 Nf-ID: #R:atari:-44100:exunido:96100031:000:2442 Nf-From: exunido!uh Oct 24 11:20:00 1986 >In article <96100026@exunido.UUCP>, uh@exunido.UUCP writes: >> >it before letting it out again. It will be distributed *soon* on >> >Compuserve, on the Atari BSS, and to dealers. [Not on usenet, though, >> >for obvious reasons.] >> >> What reasons, pardon. We developers here in Europe would be also very >> interested in such updates > >The reason is that Usenet is supposed to be used for non-commercial things. >We reasoned that the hard disk driver violates that. Right or wrong? What is commercial in posting an update of existing software? Do you want to take money for this driver? If so, than you're right, it's commercial. >> About a year ago I was flamed very much by members of Atari (US) and other >> people, because I have posted the CP/M-Emulator (here in Germany public >> domain) to usenet. Now neil@atari says that Atari (US) will put this >> emulator also into the public domain --- and now he asks us kids here >> in Europe, how to put the utilities onto CP/M disks. > >Uwe, lets take off the gloves. If you had not posted the program to the >net, we would have had a viable product that we could sell and support. Our >eventual decision to make the CP/M emulator available as a free program was >based on the fact that everyone had it already anyway! A big manual and >support will not be available, sorry, but we just can't afford it. May I remember you, that we were explicit allowed by Atari Germany to post that CP/M emulator to USENET. Only two weeks after my posting, a new release of the emulator was published here in Germany. In the meantime there are n+1 new releases of the emulator (many corrected bugs, works with ROM-TOS and so on). I have not posted even one of this new releases. With the hard disk the current emulator still doesn't work. So I would say IT IS STILL IN A NON-SELLABLE PRODUCT. And so the emulator is still PD in Germany. But the newest news, a final version is on the schedule, it will also support the hard disk and this product WILL BE SOLD (no PD) here in Germany. And final, if we hadn't posted the emulator, you could be shure any other her in Germany had done it. Today in the age of international computer networks you cannot make a program PD in one country and sell it in another country. Uwe Hoch Computer Science Department, University of Dortmund 4600 Dortmund 50, P.O. Box 500500, W.-Germany E-mail address: uh@exunido.uucp, uh@exunido.bitnet