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From: verber@osu-eddie.UUCP (Mark Verber)
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Subject: Re: Lisp on Macs
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Date: Thu, 30-Oct-86 20:56:05 EST
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There are four 'real' Lisp compilers for the Macintosh that will
let you do the critical things you are interested in:

#1. MacScheme with Toolsmith.  Toolsmith gives full access to
    the toolbox in a very nice way.   Toolsmith is currently in
    beta test but is very nice.  The only complaint I have is
    that it is slow (but then again I am use to Sun-3s).

#2. ExperLisp.  I don't recommend this compiler.  The compiler is
    buggy.  They advertise that it is CommonLisp compatible but
    it doesn't support closures, use lexical scoping or have
    multiple name spaces.  I guess you can call it CommonLisp
    since the function names are the same.  I have talked to a
    number of Lisp implimentors about the product, and all have
    felt that the ExperLisp compiler just wasn't that hot.

#3. OakLisp.  This is an experimental Object Scheme which runs
    on Symbolics, Macintoshes and Suns.  I believe only the
    Symbolics version is running (although I am guessing).
    It might be released, then again, it might not.  You can
    see a description of it in the Proceedings from OOPSLA86. 
    OakLisp is a high preformance dialect of Scheme with
    objects as first class entities.  It is modelled after
    T (from Yale) and should be very high preformance, and give
    access to the toolbox.

#4. PSL (Portable Standard Lisp).  This also is not done yet.
    Rummor has it that Kessler is porting the entire SysLisp
    compiler to the Macintosh. SysLisp is a dialect of PSL
    which is designed to product high-preformance software,
    specificely other compilers and tools.  PSL is very much
    like MacLisp for the DECsystem-20 and generates very fast
    code.

Cheers,
Mark A. Verber			verber@ohio-state.arpa  (internet)
The Ohio State University	verber@ohio-state.csnet (csnet)
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