Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!sri-spam!sri-unix!hplabs!tektronix!orca!hammer!johnt From: johnt@hammer.TEK.COM (John Theus) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac,net.micro.68k Subject: Re: What's Nu with VME for Mac? Message-ID: <2652@hammer.TEK.COM> Date: Thu, 30-Oct-86 15:03:11 EST Article-I.D.: hammer.2652 Posted: Thu Oct 30 15:03:11 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 3-Nov-86 21:29:40 EST References: <842@gould9.UUCP> <1240@hoptoad.uucp> Reply-To: johnt@hammer.UUCP (John Theus) Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville, OR Lines: 36 Keywords: NuBus, VME, slotted Mac Xref: mnetor net.micro.mac:7776 net.micro.68k:1412 In article <1240@hoptoad.uucp> gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes: > >The Nu bus is not a standard, and has been adopted by few companies. >The VMEbus is, and seems to be the "Multibus of the '80s" as far as >peripheral card availability. By the way, it is a "VMEbus", and the >cards that go in it are "VMEbus cards", not "VME cards". You don't >talk about plugging Uni cards into your Unibus, do you? And NuBus (IEEE 1196; IEEE 896 is Futurebus) is not Nu bus. I don't know your definition of standard, but as far as the IEEE is concerned neither is a standard, and both are awaiting approval by the Computer Society's Microprocessor Standards Committee (MSC). Multibus II is also at this stage, while Futurebus has been approved by the MSC. If your definition of standard is based on the number of companies using the bus, then yes, VMEbus is much more widely used. If your definition of standard is based on the number of options and incompatabilities allowed by a specification, then NuBus wins hands down. With NuBus you don't have the problems of differing address and data widths, and a free for all in the use of the address space. NuBus was developed at MIT. Western Digital went into the business of building boards for MIT and the NuMachine, and for LMI. TI bought this business from Western Digital, and uses NuBus in their AI machines. The principal players at WD, and then TI, now work at Corollary. George White of Corollary is the chairman of the IEEE 1196 committee. NuBus, along with Multibus II and Futurebus, can all be classified as modern, full feature buses, while VMEbus is a wide Multibus with an improved electrical environment. John Theus Futurebus Parallel Protocol Coordinator Tektronix, Inc.