Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!ll-xn!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!mcnc!ece-csc!uvacs!edison!jso From: jso@edison.UUCP (John Owens) Newsgroups: net.micro.pc Subject: Re: Hard disk shutoff Message-ID: <879@edison.UUCP> Date: Mon, 20-Oct-86 12:40:54 EDT Article-I.D.: edison.879 Posted: Mon Oct 20 12:40:54 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 22-Oct-86 22:25:29 EDT References: <12068@watnot.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: General Electric Company, Charlottesville, VA Lines: 49 Summary: hard disks are meant to run continuously In article <12068@watnot.UUCP>, rdgreenall@watnot.UUCP (Richard Greenall) writes: > I am wondering if the constant running of the hard disk is damaging to > it. (Ex. running approximately 20 hours. per day.) > It seems crazy to me that the hard disk should be running > when there is no activity on the board. The > ideal situation would be for the pc to start the motor on the > hard disk as soon as it detects a call on the modem. (I think this > is impossible but who knows what somebody can come up with) I can see where you are coming from, but this would be worse, for a number of reasons. 1) Although the heads contact the disk surface for floppies, for hard disks they fly above the surface of the disk, separated by a small air space. There is no wear on the surface on the disk while it is spinning or being accessed. 2) A hard disk has a lot of inertia. When you start the motor on a floppy drive, the system typically waits for a second or less for the floppy to "come up to speed". This can take up to a minute on a typical small (20MB) hard disk. Even after this amount of time, the rotational speed won't be quite as stable as it will after it has been running for a long period of time. 3) The shocks to the drive mechanism and to the disk platters themselves from slowing down, stopping, and coming back up to speed are significant. They can, after time, cause mechanical problems and can knock loose any foreign particles that might be safely tucked in a crevice somewhere. 4) Winchester-type disks are *designed* to be constantly running. On large multi-user systems, with disks up to 14" in diameter, the drives run 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, constantly; "spinning down" the disk is a rare event. When designing hard disks for microcomputers, the designers have to take into account that the disk will be powered up and down quite often (once or twice a day), and make it more rugged to withstand that. In summary, please *don't* try to start and stop your hard disk like that. And for anyone who has a system with a hard disk: don't turn it on and off many times a day if you can help it. I have an XT that I turn on and off daily, and an AT that has been running for months without being powered down. (The AT is running XENIX, and I want to leave it up at all times to pick up mail and such.) John Owens General Electric Company - Charlottesville, VA jso@edison.GE.COM old arpa: jso%edison.GE.COM@seismo.CSS.GOV +1 804 978 5726 old uucp: {seismo,decuac,houxm,calma}!edison!jso