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From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
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Subject: Re: humanity
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Date: Tue, 14-Oct-86 14:13:26 EDT
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Posted: Tue Oct 14 14:13:26 1986
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> In article <1120@kontron.UUCP> cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> >
> >You have a valid point IF the coercive redistribution of income applied only
> >to a minority of the population, and IF you fail to distinguish between
> >criminal actions (i.e. aggressing against others) and non-aggressive behavior
> >(making money).
> >
> 
> And you, in turn, have a valid point IF you accept that making money is
> a fortiori a non-aggressive action.  In particular, the stance required
> is that making money in excess of the needs of yourself -- and, of course,
> your dependents (if any) for the necessities of life (food, clothing, shelter,
> education, and a basic level of recreation) is a non-aggressive action.  In
> personal terms, that is to say "My need for a new VCR takes precedence over
> any desire I may have to see that fellow over there fed," and to feel that this
> is not in any way an act of aggression against that-fellow-over-there.  
> 

Care to tell me what definition of "aggression" you are using?  It's clearly
not a definition of the word that anyone recognizes.  The only way that me
making money is "aggression" against another is if I go over to that guy
and force or threaten him into giving me something.

You better work on your command of English.

> I am not claiming that this an unethical stance; however, to deny that this is
> in essence what you are saying, Mr Cramer, when you categorically define the
> making (and, implicitly, the keeping) of money as "non-aggressive behavior"
> -- to deny this would be simply lying to yourself:  bad faith.
> 
> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes

Again, you don't know what that word "aggression" means.  Maybe you should
go back to school and learn.

Clayton E. Cramer