Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!think!rutgers!pyrnj!esquire!cmcl2!phri!roy From: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Newsgroups: net.periphs Subject: RS-232 vs. The Apple LaserWriter Message-ID: <2457@phri.UUCP> Date: Mon, 20-Oct-86 17:15:22 EDT Article-I.D.: phri.2457 Posted: Mon Oct 20 17:15:22 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 22-Oct-86 04:33:45 EDT Reply-To: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Organization: Public Health Research Inst. (NY, NY) Lines: 22 Keywords: DTE, DCE, RS-232 I just got my 2nd Apple LaserWriter and noticed that they have re-written the manual a bit since I bought my first one 6 months ago. In particular, they go into a bit more detail when they talk about the comm connectors. Quoting from Appendix C, page 124: Technically, the LaserWriter has a "DTE" type of RS-232 interface. This means it can be connected directly to a host computer or a modem, with no signal reversals required. Connecting to a terminal requires interposing a modem eleminator [sic] (null modem) cable ... Now, I don't claim to be an expert on RS-232 (although I usually do manage to get things to work), but isn't that wrong? Shouldn't a "host computer" also be a DTE? My Sun-3/50 has DTE ports on the back, and the various serial ports on my Vax are also DTE. Is it common practice in personal computers (whose owners, I assume, are the intended audience of this manual) to have comm ports wired DCE? -- Roy Smith, {allegra,philabs}!phri!roy System Administrator, Public Health Research Institute 455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016