Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!umcp-cs!cvl!umd5!zben From: zben@umd5 (Ben Cranston) Newsgroups: net.periphs Subject: Re: RS-232 vs. The Apple LaserWriter Message-ID: <1331@umd5> Date: Sun, 26-Oct-86 20:50:00 EST Article-I.D.: umd5.1331 Posted: Sun Oct 26 20:50:00 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 27-Oct-86 05:31:21 EST References: <2457@phri.UUCP> Reply-To: zben@umd5.umd.edu (Ben Cranston) Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Lines: 18 Keywords: DTE, DCE, RS-232 Summary: Sometimes pc's DO have DCE connects... In article <2457@phri.UUCP> roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) writes: > ... Is it common practice in personal computers ... to have comm > ports wired DCE? Not all that common, but sometimes it happens. Our office Apple ][+ has a CalComp serial port that is wired as a DCE. This makes it really easy to attach a printer, but when one wants to use a modem one has to use the Bizarro-world equivalent of a null modem cable. What would one call such a thing? A null-terminal cable :-) The UART (ACE) was designed to be a DTE, and cross-wiring it as a DCE causes muy braindamage - weird in-out interactions like not being able to disallow input with CTS while sending a break. A pox on the designer. -- umd5.UUCP <= {seismo!umcp-cs,ihnp4!rlgvax}!cvl!umd5!zben Ben Cranston zben @ umd2.UMD.EDU Kingdom of Merryland Sperrows 1100/92 umd2.BITNET "via HASP with RSCS"