Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!andromeda!argus!shah From: shah@argus.UUCP (Sanjeev Shah) Newsgroups: net.sources.bugs Subject: Re: There are basically no export controls ... question on crypt Message-ID: <544@argus.UUCP> Date: Sat, 25-Oct-86 11:19:17 EST Article-I.D.: argus.544 Posted: Sat Oct 25 11:19:17 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 26-Oct-86 01:45:42 EST References: <1176@hoptoad.uucp> <1889@well.UUCP> <7201@utzoo.UUCP> <8455@sun.uucp> <1378@kitty.UUCP> Organization: NJ Inst of Tech., Newark NJ Lines: 36 Summary: Prior versions of UNIX (V7, UniSoft) had crypt(1) for export In article <1378@kitty.UUCP>, larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) writes: > A computer SHIPPED WITH crypt(1) constitutes an "encryption device". > A computer shipped separately and with no obvious connection with encryption > software does NOT constitute an encryption device, and is therefore exempt > from this export prohibition (but the computer may be restricted from export > for OTHER reasons - but we are not discussing "high technology" export > restrictions here). Software, sold alone and with no obvious connection > to a particular computer does NOT (under present definitions) constitute an > "encryption device", and is therefore exempt from any export controls. > HOWEVER, AT&T, DEC, and other vendors cannot clearly separate the > hardware from that of crypt(1) software in a manner sufficient to avoid any > possible hassle with the U.S. Department of State - so they have chosen to > "avoid the hassle" and simply make crypt(1) unavailable for export. > In the _particular_ case of the UNIX operating system and crypt(1), > this alleged restriction seems rather silly to me - but who am I to question > AT&T, DEC or the U.S. Department of State??? > > ==> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, New York > ==> UUCP: {allegra|decvax|rocksanne|rocksvax|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry > ==> VOICE: 716/688-1231 {hplabs|ihnp4|seismo|utzoo}!/ > ==> FAX: 716/741-9635 {G1,G2,G3} "Have you hugged your cat today?" I used to work on Codata 3300 (68000 based) Unix machine in India, and the Unix was a port by UniSoft (Version 7). This was back in 1983-84 and we certainly did have crypt(1) on that version. I remember UniSoft's disclaimer to any files stored as crypted. -- Sanjeev Shah New Jersey Institute of Technology Electronic Information Exchange System II Newark, NJ 07102 njbell: W(201)596-3426 H(201)485-8965 arpa: argus!shah@bellcore.arpa uucp: ...ihnp4!allegra!bellcore!argus!shah ...{seismo!topaz!caip,allegra!princeton}!andromeda!argus!shah