Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rick From: rick@seismo.CSS.GOV (Rick Adams) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: Seeking a Development Environment (Sun?) Message-ID: <41862@beno.seismo.CSS.GOV> Date: Thu, 23-Oct-86 14:00:07 EDT Article-I.D.: beno.41862 Posted: Thu Oct 23 14:00:07 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Oct-86 00:23:53 EDT References: <4254@brl-smoke.ARPA> <935@kbsvax.steinmetz.UUCP> <8422@sun.uucp> Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA Lines: 20 Summary: system administration is different A major failing as far as I am concerned is that since the Apollo is a layered/emulation/whatever instead of a "true" Unix, the system administration commands are that of the Apollo OS, not Unix. Eunice has this problem as well. I don't have time to teach the operators different procedures for different machines. "dump" should do the same basic thing on all machines. So, you DO have a visible difference. If the difference is invisible, (i.e. you have a program called dump that interfaces to whatever Aegis uses) it doesn't really matter whats underneath. Just because the library calls are basically there doesn't make it a complete emulation. (Yes, I think system 5 backup procedures are brain dead. Guess what else we're not considering buying because the system administration is "different". Try doing 10 gigabytes of disk with cpio and volcopy. Then try it with "dump".) ---rick