Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ll-xn!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!prls!philabs!micomvax!musocs!mcgill-vision!mouse From: mouse@mcgill-vision.UUCP Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards,net.unix Subject: Re: Arcane modem configuration (was Re: Modems on Ultrix) Message-ID: <512@mcgill-vision.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Sep-86 23:50:22 EDT Article-I.D.: mcgill-v.512 Posted: Thu Sep 25 23:50:22 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Oct-86 08:45:36 EDT References: <282@cirl.UUCP> <3030@umcp-cs.UUCP> <1149@ncr-sd.UUCP> <1154@ncr-sd.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: McGill University, Montreal Lines: 28 In article <1154@ncr-sd.UUCP>, greg@ncr-sd.UUCP (Greg Noel) writes: > I'm puzzled, though -- the RS-232 (et.seq.) protocol is \not/ that > complicated, but by the number of supposedly knowledgable people that > get it just flat wrong, there must be something subtle in it that > causes confusion. RS232 is not complicated. BUT, it is usually possible to get by with a small subset (pins 1, 2, 3, 7, with maybe 2 and 3 crossed), which leads people to avoid learning more than that small subset. For example, I know what the basic difference between DTE and DCE is supposed to be, but I couldn't tell you the details like which one is supposed to transmit on pin 2. I have learned enough about RS232 to make terminal cables that work, and that's about it. Also, I don't think I have *ever* seen the RS232 protocol explained. I expect this is because nobody has needed to bother to go look it up; the "small subset" above is small enough to be passed on verbally -- so there are no sheets lying around with the explanation on them. This leads to the mystique surrounding anything undocumented. der Mouse USA: {ihnp4,decvax,akgua,utzoo,etc}!utcsri!mcgill-vision!mouse think!mosart!mcgill-vision!mouse Europe: mcvax!decvax!utcsri!mcgill-vision!mouse ARPAnet: think!mosart!mcgill-vision!mouse@harvard.harvard.edu Aren't you glad you don't shave with Occam's Razor?