Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!sri-spam!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!oz.berkeley.edu!spp From: spp@oz.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: Looking through other users' (unprotected) files Message-ID: <16234@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Fri, 24-Oct-86 17:17:06 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.16234 Posted: Fri Oct 24 17:17:06 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 25-Oct-86 07:17:27 EDT References: <1246@kitty.UUCP> <141@rayssd.UUCP> <2433@phri.UUCP> <2046@saber.UUCP> <3561@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> <169@morgoth.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: spp@oz.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Steve Pope) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 25 >Essentially, it is all wrapped up in the word "permission." By >setting the appropriate _read_ _permission_ on your files and >directories, you are giving me _permission_ to read them. Novices >will learn. I am really surprised that so many people are expressing this attitude. I should think it would be obvious that reading through the files in someone else's directory just for the hell of it is a violation of privacy, regardless of permissions. Consider somebody who leaves his office and file cabinets unlocked. Does this give everybody else the right to come in and browse through their papers? The convenience of having an open system where read permission is on by default is that if somebody has a good reason to access someone else's file, they can do it. It turns out that setting a policy by which users routinely turn off read permissions is bad for security. What happens in every case is people start trading passwords, using each other's accounts, and security rapidly goes to hell. If you can trust your computer users to behave like adults in the first place, you'll be way ahead. steve