Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!vrdxhq!BMS-AT!stuart From: stuart@BMS-AT.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: Looking through other users' (unprotected) files Message-ID: <254@BMS-AT.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-Oct-86 22:17:52 EDT Article-I.D.: BMS-AT.254 Posted: Fri Oct 24 22:17:52 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 25-Oct-86 07:21:31 EDT References: <1246@kitty.UUCP> <141@rayssd.UUCP> <2433@phri.UUCP> <2046@saber.UUCP> <1501@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: Business Management Systems, Inc., Fairfax, VA Lines: 27 Summary: All in the family In article <1501@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>, mwm@eris.berkeley.edu (Mike (Don't have strength to leave) Meyer) writes: > In article <2849@rsch.WISC.EDU> mcvoy@rsch.WISC.EDU (Lawrence W. McVoy) writes: > > If you insist on a real world analogy, try this: it's as if > >someone said, "Here, use my house. There are other people that I let > >use my house, so here are some keys. Use them to lock up your stuff. > >If you don't, anyone else can play with your stuff, just as you may > >play with anything you find." See the difference? It's not *your* > >house, it's everyones' house. > Would you rent an apartment under those conditions? I damned well > wouldn't. Would you get upset if you left your door unlocked while you > left for a short time, and came back and found your neighbors > rummaging around in your apartment? How about your landlord? The answer to the above questions depends on whether we are talking about strangers or family. In a family or community setting we have the situation described by Mr McVoy as typical of a *nix environment. The assumption is that all users are friendly (non-hostile). This is not a good assumption for a public time sharing service. It is hopefully a good assumption for a company computer. In a formal setting such as landlord and tenant, we are much more private and not so trusting. This is the better approach for public systems. -- Stuart D. Gathman <..!seismo!{vrdxhq|dgis}!BMS-AT!stuart>