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From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore)
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Subject: Chris Lewis on obeying governments
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Date: Fri, 31-Oct-86 08:53:41 EST
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I know Chris has a right to his opinion and everything, but I for
one am getting tired of hearing, every time someone proposes actually
doing something to verify or correct a stupidity created by a government,
that the consequences are dire and we should all just knuckle under.

Chris is the person who first complained about the DES posting possibly
being illegal.  After I did some research to fix that, he tried to
contest the results of that research (without knowing US law -- he's
Canadian!).  Now when Larry Campbell proposed that we break a bad
law and form a legal defense fund to get the law challenged in court,
he tells us how stupid all the people were who fought Sentator McCarthy's
abuse of government in the 1950's.

Chris, while living like a mouse might be fun for you, can you leave
the rest of us to our kind of fun?  As somebody said, the people get
exactly the government they deserve, and I for one want a better
government and am willing to work to improve it.  This means learning,
myself, how it works, and teaching it when it errs.

From the tone of your postings I would almost venture a guess that you
are a CIA disinformation operative.  Arguing for the supremacy of the 
government and the hopelessness of fighting the police state (McCarthy).
The general tone of "Give up!  It's hopeless" is unhealthy for freedom.
-- 
John Gilmore  {sun,ptsfa,lll-crg,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu   jgilmore@lll-crg.arpa
Bomb, terrorist, cryptography, DES, assasinate, secret, decode, NSA, CIA, NRO.
 The above is food for the NSA line eater.  Add it to your .signature and
 you too can help overflow the NSA's ability to scan all traffic going in or
 out of the USA looking for "significant" words.  (This is not a joke, sadly.)