Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site hcrvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!hcrvax!ken From: ken@hcrvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.books,sci.lang Subject: Re: Gender distinctions Message-ID: <2586@hcrvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Nov-86 11:56:05 EST Article-I.D.: hcrvax.2586 Posted: Thu Nov 6 11:56:05 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 7-Nov-86 01:05:59 EST References: <16227@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <2177@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> <8224@watrose.UUCP> <2181@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> <1277@megaron.UUCP> Reply-To: ken@hcrvax.UUCP (ken scott, [decvax,ihnp4]!utzoo!hcr!ken) Organization: Human Computing Resources, Toronto Lines: 35 Summary: In article <1277@megaron.UUCP> debray@megaron.UUCP writes: >I can name several (Asian) Indian languages -- among them Bengali, my >mother tongue -- which have only one third person pronoun, roughly >equivalent to "it". > >This may or may not lead to less sexism in *writing*, it certainly >doesn't change the fact that these societies are extremely sexist. >This makes me feel that the whole "Sexism in Language" debate is >pretty meaningless (yes, Sapir-Whorf notwithstanding). This is the logical equivalent of: "I didn't go swimming in January, and I caught pneumonia anyway. I think that all this nonsense about hypothermia and pneumonia is pretty meaningless." --:) What it boils down to is: "Every little bit counts." (Even the silly things.) As a sort of illustration, consider the term Mrs. In Dryden's day, any lady worthy of respect (through age, social standing, talent) was referred to as Mrs., and Miss was almost a diminutive. See the (dreadful) poem "To the Memory of Mrs. Anne Killigrew, Poetess". Now, the only way to gain this term of respect is to get married. In the same vein, don't try calling a 60 year old German spinster Fraulein. Ken -- - Ken Scott [decvax,ihnp4]!utzoo!hcr!ken For, I said to myself, what is the universe? Big. And what am I? Little. I therefore might as well be at home, where my wife loves me. - Henderson, The Rain King