Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!sri-spam!sri-unix!hplabs!pyramid!decwrl!amdcad!cae780!leadsv!pat From: pat@leadsv.UUCP (Pat Wimmer) Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Arithmetic with Roman numerals Message-ID: <1184@leadsv.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Nov-86 14:49:15 EST Article-I.D.: leadsv.1184 Posted: Mon Nov 3 14:49:15 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Nov-86 22:15:22 EST References: <782@zeus.UUCP> <487@jumbo.DEC.COM> Distribution: net Organization: LMSC-LEADS, Sunnyvale, Ca. Lines: 22 Keywords: Roman numerals, arithmetic, Arabic numerals In article <487@jumbo.DEC.COM>, stolfi@jumbo.DEC.COM (Jorge Stolfi) writes: > > The real problems with Roman numerals are the lack of a symbol for > zero and the varying width of digits (which makes it hard to align > corresponding digits); the finite supply of letters (which puts a bound > on the representable numbers); and its general verbosity. Of course, > the Romans also lacked many mathematical concepts that we have since > incorporated into our number system, such as decimal fractions and > negative numbers. > I read this yarn some time back, so please forgive me if I am a bit hazy on the details. The point LS de Camp was trying to make were the very ones you bring up, wasn't it? Wasn't the Roman attempt at accounting absurdly unwieldy, extremely prone to error, and user hostile when trying to retrieve data? The sheer effort involved in using such a system should not be lightly dismissed. As to the lack of zero, negative numbers, and decimal fractions, these preclude the development of modern mathematics. Can you imagine trying to do calculus with Roman Numerals, and the above limitations? What about complex numbers, without which elementry physics, not to mention elementry electricity is impossible.